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How has your experience been filming this? I heard you were hurt for the first six months.
Yeah. I didn’t start skating until sometime in June. And then I broke a rib at the end of July and couldn’t skate for all of August. So I really got started on this in September.

Damn. What was the first injury again?
I broke my foot at the end of 2014. I had surgery on it, and it just healed super slowly. I had surgery December 1, 2014, and the doctor was like, “Oh, it can take anywhere from seven weeks to three months to recover.” Being a skater, of course I was just like, “Oh, I’ll be skating in seven weeks or sooner. Because we’re really tough, right?” [Laughs] But then I would keep talking to Thiessen like, “Yeah, all good. I just need one more checkup and I’ll be back next month. Every month I would basically end up telling him “one more month!”

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Davis Torgerson, backside tailslide gap out. PHOTO / Chami (click to enlarge)

That must have been rough waiting to heal.
Oh, totally. I was like, “I am so excited to do this project.” Being stuck at home while the clock was sort of running was super frustrating. I was of officially in the video last December. I had had the surgery like two weeks earlier. At the time I was telling Chris like, “I’ll be good in a month!” After a while I started feeling kind of bad, like I might have blown it for him.

It might work to your advantage. Like you’ll be the guy who’s most charged at the end after waiting so long. How has it been since you got to skate finally?
It’s been good, but it’s tough too. Because mentally I’m really excited to skate. When you’ve been out for that long that’s all you want to do. But physically I’m trying to film a video part while I’m still getting my skating back to where it was before the injury.

Did you know the other guys prior?
I knew Tristan [T-Funk] from DC trips and then I had met Tom K a while back before. I hadn’t met Jon or Dolan before. Right when I got on board, I think Dolan was in and Tom was in, but the other spots were still open. Chris would keep updating me on who was potentially in it, so that was a cool process to find out who we would share the video with.

Are you a fan of the VX?
Personally I definitely am. I used to have a VX back in the day and film a lot. From the Boondoggle days in Minnesota, I was always the guy in the crew with the camera. I remember when Chris was telling me that TransWorld was down to do it all VX, I was stoked. I’m excited just for something different I guess.

It’s funny to think of the Ty Evans TransWorld mold and how it was always sort of considered the highest production value possible. This will definitely be different from that.
Totally. I think it’s sick. That’s one of the things that makes this project so special for me. In a time where there are no more videos, there’s no feel to anything. Everything is thrown together and diluted on the Internet. So to work towards something that will actually be in one whole video, with an actual premiere—the whole VX thing will make it blend and sync up that much more. Rather than just 50 different filmers with no feel or style. Not everyone is going to like it. Some people will love it, and other people will hate on it and talk shit on it.

Everybody is gonna love it.
[Laughs] Yeah. They are.

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Tom Karangelov, ollie, ollie. PHOTO / Strand (click to enlarge)

People were saying you are sort of the tech dude in the bunch. Tom K and Dolan are more big basics. T-Funk is all over with fastplants and all that. Jon is sort of the Isle-style ow guy on some cobblestone or something. You’re like the Shane O’Neill of the bunch.
[Laughs] So weird. Yeah, it’s probably Jon and I doing the most flip tricks and switch stuff. But it’s funny because I’ve never thought of myself as the tech guy. That’s so far from what I am [laughs]. I like that skating is mixed up right now though. You can go from Grizzly Grip to the dude in the tucked-in Polo shirt.

All-time best TWS video part?
The first one I saw was maybe In Bloom [’02]. As a kid I was psyched on Evan Hernandez. He was sick. But honestly I think my favorite part might be Chad Tim Tim in A Time To Shine [’06]. “I stopped doing what I thought I should do and started doing what I wanted to do.”

Dolan Stearns

How has this process been for you? Good times?
It’s been really fun. It’s a whole new experience for me. I had never traveled this much. These were my first big overseas trips. China was insane. Just like a whole different world.

You guys went to some out-of-the-way destinations even for China.
Yeah. The first city we went to, Kunming, was really cool. You could still actually eat. Then the second city [Chongqing] was pretty brutal. Just massive culture shock and pollution.

Had you filmed with Thiessen prior?
I had filmed with him when Neen [Williams] had a part in Outliers. I met up with him for the weekend up in LA and just filmed some clips. That was the first time I met him, and then we stayed in contact. Then I got a call from him one day out of the blue hitting me up for the next video. I was just like, “I’m super down.”

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Dolan Stearns, backside noseblunt-slide. PHOTO / Chami. (click to enlarge)

How was that call? Must have been a gnarly one to get.
Yeah. I was up in the hills above the lake picking sage to make sage bundles and stuff. I was looking over the lake when he called me. I was just like, “Life is awesome.”

Biblical moment.
Pretty much.

I was told at present you have the second most footage with like 12 minutes or something. Have you been on a roll?
Oh, fuck. That’s sick. I didn’t even know I had that much [laughs]. I don’t know. I just film. I like to skate. I know other people might be planning this all out or something, but I just skate. If I see something I want to try, I do it.

Thiessen was saying that one of his objectives with this was just to let it happen. Not pressure anyone or push for anything.
Yeah. I love Chris’ filming too. He’s such a good dude to go out with. He’s really motivating. He lets you do your thing.

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Dolan Stearns, kickflip. PHOTO / Strand. (click to enlarge)

How about the VX front? Are you down for that?
For sure. I fucking love VX. That’s skateboarding right there. HD is cool, but it’s a whole different vibe for skating. That’s like some football shit to me. VX is just our thing. It’s what we know. My uncle was a filmer out in the I.E. [Inland Empire, California], so I’ve been around the VX for a long time. His name is Matty B. He made the Janky video. He got my brother into skating, and then I got into it from there. But I also just love filming. It’s really fun. I love that ritual, and we did it while filming this—after you get done skating, you go back to the hotel and get a little rerun of what we got for the day.

This video feels like it will be a radical departure from the TWS formula. I know they’ve claimed it before, like Not Another TransWorld Video, but then it still felt like the same format. This one seems like it will actually be completely different.
Yeah. I think this will be one of the better ones out of all the recent ones. I hope so at least [laughs].

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Dolan Stearns, ollie. PHOTO / Strand. (click to enlarge)

Thiessen told me about this China trip where you left your board at LAX then realized you had no other boards for the trip.
[Laughs] Yeah. I had eaten this little edible. We were in the line to get through security and I started to feel it. We were running late to get to the plane, but we still wanted to stop at the bar and get a double. I think I left my board at the TSA screening. I put my shoes on and just grabbed my bag on the way to the bar. I didn’t realize until I got off the plane in China, some 13 hours later that I had no boards at all. Tom hooked me up with some Thunders. I went to a shop, traded them for Indys, bought two boards and those lasted me the whole trip. Luckily I still had wheels and bearings and stuff.

Standard ender. All-time best TWS part?
Cardiel Sight Unseen [’01] and Brad Cromer in Outliers [’14].

All-time best TWS video?
Sight Unseen.

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SUPRA at Active Skatepark

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Our homies at SUPRA hit up the park at our other homies, Active, lit up the barbecue, slipped on the Chinos, and came back with this sick edit. Check out all things SUPRA Chino right here.

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2016 Footwear Guide: Quick 10 W/ Chad Muska

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If you grew up skating in the 90’s or early 2000’s, then I’d bet a finger and a toe that you’ve heard of Chad Muska. I’d even bet that he might’ve influenced you a little bit. You might’ve even owned a pair of cargo pants with the zippers that turned into shorts, didn’t you? Or maybe a bright red or yellow 2XL tank top perhaps? You wore a crooked hat. You skated with a backpack on while holding parents broken boombox in your arms like an infant. Don’t deny it! Don’t be ashamed! We all did it. And we did it with pride. Chad Muska is one of skateboarding’s most influential characters, but his talent spans far beyond his skills on a skateboard. He’s an accomplished designer, an artist, a DJ, and, well, the list goes on. For our 2016 Footwear Guide presented by Skate Warehouse, we caught up with Chad to get the rundown on his current role at Supra, a few of his footwear preferences, and to see what’s in store for 2016.

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Crooked Grind, NYC. Photo: Trihn

What’s new for you and the Supra family?
Well, as a lot of you may have heard there has been some new corporate infrastructure changes that have happened recently for Supra and I just want to say that this does not really change our company at all from the outside looking in. We come from skateboarding and we will stay true to our roots as we continue to progress and grow into the future no matter where we call our office home. The skate team has been killing it on tours in Europe, America and in their own individual time. I have had a back injury that has taken me off the board for a while so I have just been creating and directing with the company as I always have, even when I was skating everyday.

So it sounds like you’re pretty involved with the ins and outs, yeah? Are you involved with the production process? What model are you most stoked on in the spring line?
In the past I have helped direct the brand as a whole and since its inception I have gone in phases of being there all the time to just communicating through emails, as I was on the road a lot in my life. Currently I have been in a phase of trying to communicate and give input on the whole line but have taken a step back as the brand has grown. Now I mostly focus primarily on my signature Skytop products. I am bad at knowing which shoes drop during which season because we are always working so far in advance and my main concern is the creation. I leave it up to the company to handle everything else. But if I am not mistaken we are dropping the Skytop III again after taking it out of the line for a while. I am really hyped about its reintroduction with a newly designed side cage. It gives an option for a lower profile cup sole shoe within my Skytop products.

Is the Skytop your favorite shoe? If not, tell me your favorite shoe that you’ve ever skated? (Supra or non-supra)
My favorite shoe is always the current one I’m working on! [Laughs] But if I had to pick one I would say the Skytop 001 because I (unlike most skaters) really like to skate in high tops. There is a lot of ankle support, protection from your board hitting you and it feels broken in straight out of the box with all the leather, suede and Tuff material models.

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Supra Skytop IV

So are you a cupsole guy or a vulcanized guy?
I really think it depends on the shoe and what you are doing in it. I would say Vulc for everyday skating, flatground and ledges or cruising around a park, but if you are ready to jump down some big stairs or rails then I would say a cupsole because they are much stronger and will support your foot much better.

The essential design of skate shoes is definitely changing again. They’re getting bulkier, there’s more technology involved, yet there seems to be this need for the simple, low profile vulcanized shoes each season. Do you feel that all styles need to exist?
I feel that skateboarding has evolved over the years and trends will come and go… But like I said in the previous answer, you really do need both. I think the future is about creating shoes with technology again but they don’t have to look like they are from the future. The hardest thing as a designer is knowing when to stop. It’s really easy to over design and technical simplicity is a true thing of beauty when properly achieved. I consider my self a minimalist in this day and age but I have definitely been guilty of over designing. Being loud is fun at times although it usually fades with the trend. A simple Classic Vulc shoe is pretty much timeless and I don’t see them going anywhere anytime soon.

Which Supra model sells the best in skate shops?
I think it varies from region to region and changes with the times, also you have to consider what shop it’s in, as Supra is sold in many types of retail outlets. For the skate side of things we have done well with the Stacks in the past and the Cuba as far as I can remember. But I really don’t deal with sales and don’t keep up on that aspect, I just consider myself a creator and hope that the sales force we have understands the vision and can help explain it to the retail. My shoes have done well in the past in skate shops but a lot of the time they are a little too crazy and end up performing well in more lifestyle driven outlets.

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Supra Skytop II

Since the beginning, Supra has definitely done things its own way. What is your philosophy on designing/producing shoes for skateboarding?
I have never had a philosophy to anything in my life. I just do things from my heart and put everything I have inside of me into my creations and hope that they work and connect with an audience. So far it’s worked for me pretty well. The one thing I do always do is try to create something new that is still relevant. I feel like every company has the same exact shoes and it’s more about what logo you like than the actual design… So I challenge myself to come up with something that doesn’t exist instead of chasing the current trend in skateboarding. It’s a dangerous move at times but when it works it hits hard.

So you fully design and create your pro models, correct? Any new Muska signatures in the works right now?
I conceptualize and design my products 100%. I consider myself a designer just as much as a skater. I work on the design with an in-house designer to help finalize my vision but I always come up with the concept and initial sketch to get it started. I worked with Josh Brubaker on all the Skytop models up until now and have just finished working with Adam Contreras on the Skytop V and I really think it is one of my best shoes yet! I can’t wait for this to come out and shake up the skate industry once again. I just wish it could come out faster as I see all these other skate shoes start entering into a new technical era again. It will be here soon, though. Hopefully by Black Friday but I’m not 100% sure yet.

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Supra Skytop

When you’re thinking about a new shoe, whom do you mainly have in mind? The customer, the riders, yourself? All of the above?
All the above. Especially as the company has grown and the Skytop franchise within Supra has become an important part of the business, I start to feel a need to create a shoe that is going to perform well both on your feet and in the market place, all while staying true to my design integrity. Almost every skater out there is handed a shoe with his name on it—they say a few things and it’s theirs. I make these products and they come from my heart… The good, the bad and the ugly. I stand for them all.

That’s awesome. Well let’s wrap this up. What is The Muska stoked on for the rest of 2016?
Been working on a project with Supra off Melrose where I have started a creative space where I can basically make things that influence my designs, bring interesting creatives together and hopefully inspire people. You can follow my adventures via my Instagram account @themuska and I will be posting pictures daily documenting my work and progression in the space. We are talking about doing an event in April but still haven’t set an exact date. There has also been talk of a pop up retail in the space but we are still working out the master game plan. My goal is to work so hard that I don’t have time to stress on anything in life except my positive creations and multiple platforms of self expression. Thank you to everyone who has ever supported me and a shout out to the haters, too! I’m still here!

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